Ep 393: The World Cup Sex Boom and Sex Bucket Lists
SARAH: Hey, what's up? Hello! Welcome to Sounds Fake But Okay, a podcast where an aro-ace girl (I'm Sarah, that's me.)
KAYLA: And a bi demisexual girl (that's me, Kayla.)
SARAH: Talk about all things to do with love, relationships, sexuality, and pretty much anything else we just don't understand.
KAYLA: On today's episode: Sexual Tourism.
BOTH: Sounds fake, but okay.
SARAH: It was like just as a surprise to me as it was to the listeners…
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: Because Kayla told me what we were talking about and then I forgot…
KAYLA: It’s not like I told you, yeah
SARAH: Welcome back to the pooood!
KAYLA: Hellooooo!
SARAH: How is everyone? I hope everyone had a nice July 4th, or Canada Day, or beginning of July.
KAYLA: Mm-hmm.
SARAH: Yes.
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SARAH: Yes. As a reminder, this is our last podcast before summer break time.
KAYLA: Mm-hmm.
SARAH: We'll be back on August 9th, I believe.
KAYLA: I don't recall.
SARAH: Four weeks, we'll be back in four weeks.
KAYLA: Mm-hmm.
SARAH: I hope everyone has an enjoyable break time. And I hope I write.
KAYLA: And I hope I plan my wedding.
SARAH: Yeah. My friend got married recently and I didn't know she was getting married. I think I knew she was engaged; I just didn't know that the wedding was upcoming.
KAYLA: Mm
SARAH: This is a friend in Australia, so it makes sense that I wasn’t invited.
KAYLA: Tough, yeah.
SARAH: Also, I haven't seen this friend in like nine years.
KAYLA: That'll do it.
SARAH: But I was like, oh my god, marriage.
KAYLA: ‘Mamege!’
SARAH: Okay. So, Kayla, what are we talking about this week?
KAYLA: Okay. This week, I feel like is going a little bit back to the classic Sounds Fake of I don't quite understand this allo phenomenon.
SARAH: Mm-hmm.
KAYLA: I think I understand it logically perhaps, but I cannot relate to what is going on here. So as some of you know, I live in and around the city of Boston and we are a World Cup host city. Not that… I mean, I don't go into the city of Boston all that often, to be honest. I don't really cross the river very much. So, I guess I shouldn't really say… but to me, it doesn't seem very much like we're a host city because also our stadium is like an hour outside of the city. So, it’s like…
SARAH: I mean, I also technically live in a host city, but I live so far from the stadium that it does not impact me in any way.
KAYLA: Yeah. It's just… I'm not seeing it. But we are a World Cup host city and at the beginning of the World Cup, we had the Scottish here and it was a whole to do. I did see lots of people in kilts even walking around my area, which is slightly further outside the city. And I was like, what are y'all doing here?
SARAH: Having a good time.
KAYLA: And they were having a time and they ran us out of beer and they put traffic cones on top of everything.
SARAH: Mm-hmm
KAYLA: And everyone had a grand time. I, unfortunately, was busy like the two weekends it was all happening or else I probably would have gone downtown just to see what all was going on.
SARAH: Yeah, see the Scotts
KAYLA: But I was even downtown like a week ago and there were still traffic cones upon many statues that I saw. So, that was exciting.
SARAH: I believe the English were also doing that.
KAYLA: Oh, copiers.
SARAH: Yeah. Well, they're always just trying to steal other people's…
KAYLA: From the Scots, yeah.
SARAH: Not just…
KAYLA: Yeah. What are you going to do? Anyway, a big part of this when the Scots were here is that the people… like, I'm trying to remember how it was first brought to my attention. I think I first saw it that… I saw some Scottish girls on TikTok talking about like…
SARAH: With the signs?
KAYLA: Huh?
SARAH: Did you see the ones with the signs?
KAYLA: No.
SARAH: Okay, you tell your thing and then I'll say my thing.
KAYLA: Okay. I saw Scottish girls on TikTok being like, you're going to see a lot of Scottish men over there and they're like, don't fall for it. Like, girls, don't… whatever. Like, they're not special. It's like, whatever. I know some people that went out literally every night for like, I think a week, maybe more and picked up a different Scottish guy every night to bring home. And I also knew people that…
SARAH: Did they like rank all of them?
KAYLA: I'm not close enough with the person.
SARAH: Did they ask where they were from and be like, okay, so the Glaswegians are the best fuckers?
KAYLA: I don't know this person super-well, but I can't imagine this was a very sophisticated affair.
SARAH: Okay.
KAYLA: If I had been doing this, I would have ranked them.
SARAH: Yeah.
KAYLA: But I don't know… Perhaps that says something about like my aspecness that that is like part of what the interest would be to me.
SARAH: You want to do science about it.
KAYLA: I don't know. But like everyone was going out, everyone was trying to find a Scottish person to hook up with. Everyone was talking about like, oh, these Scottish guys are like cleaning up, this is like the easiest… whatever.
SARAH: So, I saw a girl on the internet who was walking around Boston with like a poster board that was basically like, I have not found success on Tinder. I am 30 years old. I'm a veterinarian. I’m… like…
KAYLA: You know, I love, you know, a go-getter attitude.
SARAH: Yeah. She was like, I'm going to get a Scotsman. Let's go!
KAYLA: And I hope she did. I saw also a lot of screenshots from like Hinge and Tinder of Scotsmans being like, I want to know what an American girl is like, I want to try out an American girl, whatever.
SARAH: Mm-hmm
KAYLA: So, all of this to me… I understand, I think from a logical perspective of like ticking off like a bucket list item or like… to me, it feels like sexual tourism of like, I want to try these various things.
SARAH: Yeah.
KAYLA: I understand that I think logically, but I cannot relate to this experience at all.
SARAH: I also… okay, sexual tourism is also like a specific thing.
KAYLA: Yes. I know it's a whole other thing as well.
SARAH: Which is not necessarily that. I understand your point in calling it that.
KAYLA: Yes.
SARAH: To be clear though, to the people of the world, this is from the world's Google. Actually, I'm going to pull it from the world's Wikipedia. No AI bullshit here.
KAYLA: Even better.
SARAH: Sex tourism is the practice of traveling to foreign countries often in the global south, formerly known as the third world, which we changed the global south for some reason.
KAYLA: Those both feel bad, I think.
SARAH: Yeah, I think they're all kind of bad.
KAYLA: Yeah
SARAH: With the intention of engaging in paid sexual activity or relationships. Sex tourism is commonly regarded as a transnational challenge as it can be seen to target marginalized demographics in developing nations such as countries in the Americas or Southeast Asia. Basically, someone who literally goes to a developing nation to fuck a sex worker for cheap or many sex workers for cheap. So, that's the official definition of sex tourism.
KAYLA: Yucky!
SARAH: Gross.
KAYLA: That's not what I mean.
SARAH: Yes, I just want to be clear that that is not…
KAYLA: Yes. I think maybe a sex bucket list is more… maybe better to what I'm saying, but I also think that's a slightly different thing where like… people are like, I want to try this thing.
SARAH: Yeah.
KAYLA: I want to try… you know, I don't know that there's quite a right word for the phenomenon I am thinking of.
SARAH: Yeah. So, it's like sex, like… yeah, I don't really know what to call it.
KAYLA: It's like collecting.
SARAH: Yeah.
KAYLA: To me, it just feels very like trophy-like and very objectifying, which obviously the people… I think, especially like the Scotsman, it seems like everyone is a willing participant in this, right?
SARAH: Yeah, everyone was like…
KAYLA: The Scotsman were like, I want to try an American girl, the American girls were like, I want to try a Scotsman.
SARAH: Yeah
KAYLA: And also let me be… I never… I didn't see a single Scots woman, I only saw men.
SARAH: Well, they would have been harder to identify visually because women don't usually wear kilts and a lot of men wear kilts.
KAYLA: But even in like all of the videos of like the fans…
SARAH: Even like wearing jerseys and stuff, it was literally all men?
KAYLA: Yeah, no, I literally only saw men.
SARAH: Hmm, interesting.
KAYLA: So that's why I'm speaking in those terms, because that's also like the friends I had were women going after men. I'm sure there was at least one woman that came
SARAH: I’m sure
KAYLA: At least one. So, it seems like everyone was a willing participant and kind of like objectifying each other, but it just feels like a little like, you know?
SARAH: Yeah.
KAYLA: Impersonal perhaps.
SARAH: Yeah, but some people want that out of their sexual encounters. I think that's very demi of you.
KAYLA: I don't relate to this at all. I just… well, to me, the other thing is that I think this truly speaks to having… like, other reasons to have sex…
SARAH: Gamifying sex.
KAYLA: It is kind of gamifying sex.
SARAH: Continue.
KAYLA: Or like, what's it called now that people are like collecting… It's like a got to catch them all.
SARAH: Yeah.
KAYLA: Sex. Pokémon for sex, you know? Blind bag for sex, but I guess it's not like, I guess it's…
SARAH: It’s not blind at all.
KAYLA: It’s not blind this time. But it just speaks to me of like other reasons, like when we talk about as aspecs, like, why do you have sex if you're not sexually attracted to someone? Or like, why do people have sex?
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SARAH: Yeah.
KAYLA: To me, this is just like a clear point back to the allos of like, look what you're doing. Like, you are going out specifically… like, not to say that you don't find someone you're sexually attracted to, whatever
SARAH: Yeah
KAYLA: But you're going out with the purpose of finding this specific person that meets whatever thing you're trying to collect… what is in my mouth!?
SARAH: Tongue?
KAYLA: What is that!?
SARAH: Uh-oh, that's not a tongue.
KAYLA: I have no idea what this is.
SARAH: I killed a cockroach at the dentist’s today.
KAYLA: Right, right, right, right, right. That's definitely related.
SARAH: Yup.
KAYLA: Anyway. Like, you're specifically having sex… the main purpose for the sex having is not because you're like horny or because you are trying… like the need you're trying to fulfill or the want you're trying to fulfill is like checking off this box.
SARAH: Like if you met a passable man who is American, who normally you might be like, sure, I would fuck him. In this context, you might be like, no, I don't want to fuck him, I only want to fuck a Scotsman.
KAYLA: Yeah, I'm looking for a Scotsman, yeah. The single American Bostonians were like probably having the worst… like, the men were probably having the worst couple of weeks, they couldn't get anyone probably.
SARAH: That's probably true.
KAYLA: Uninteresting.
SARAH: Yeah. If we're talking about the gamifying of sex
KAYLA: Mm-hmm
SARAH: Do we want to talk about the... Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep. Here's what we're going to talk about. Let me tell you, dear listener, in college, we knew people who lived in a house and that house housed several people.
KAYLA: There was like six people in there, I feel like.
SARAH: At least six.
KAYLA: Probably more, actually
SARAH: I think it was more like seven, maybe even eight.
KAYLA: Yeah. Because there was the bedroom that was not a bedroom.
SARAH: Yeah. But in this house where people lived, they had a... We're going to come up with a fake name for this house because this house had a name.
KAYLA: Oh, good, yeah
SARAH: We're going to call it…
KAYLA: Pencil
SARAH: Great, we’re going to call it Pencil House.
KAYLA: Mm-hmm
SARAH: And so, they had this thing called Pencil Quest where the goal was to have sex in every single room in the Pencil House.
KAYLA: Including the yucky, yucky basement.
SARAH: Yes. Including other people's bedrooms.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: And it was like a thing where you would try to get as many rooms as you could.
KAYLA: And everyone knew about it.
SARAH: Everyone knew about it.
KAYLA: Like, this was a house that was attached to our student organization.
SARAH: Mm-hmm
KAYLA: And so, people… only people like from and associated with... should I say that?
SARAH: There are many reasons I didn't want to live in that house, and that's one of them.
KAYLA: Yeah. We lived in the other house that was associated with...
SARAH: Well, there were three at the time, actually. There was a third.
KAYLA: That's true, there was a third. But we lived in one of the other ones, and it was known as ‘the chill one.’
SARAH: We were more civilized, said with respect to the people who lived in Pencil House, love y'all, but…
KAYLA: Pencil House, yeah.
SARAH: But like, it was also funny because sometimes the people in Pencil House would be dating each other and then they had...
KAYLA: Yeah, it made it a lot easier for them.
SARAH: Yeah, a huge advantage.
KAYLA: Related to that, this org that we were in was a sport, and...
SARAH: I… Yeah, okay.
KAYLA: What!?
SARAH: I was going to say, people who have listened enough, they know exactly what we're talking about, but that's fine, keep going.
KAYLA: I'm going to be as vague as possible. It was a sport of which there are many positions, like many sports. And so, then it was also a game of trying to sleep with someone who played… I don't know that that one had a name. Did that one have a name?
SARAH: I don't know. I mean, that may have just been like [bleep]
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: But wasn't [bleep] sleeping with people on other teams?
KAYLA: I actually have no idea.
SARAH: Okay.
KAYLA: So that was a whole other thing.
SARAH: Yeah. So, like, some positions were a lot easier because there were more players at that position.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: It would be like, if we're talking about soccer, trying to bang a goalie is going to be a lot harder than like a forward, there are just fewer of them.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: So, there was like a gamification. We also know people who had a running PowerPoint.
KAYLA: Yeah. The same people, actually.
SARAH: Yeah, the same people
KAYLA: The same people involved in all of these things.
SARAH: All of them. Who had a running PowerPoint, where all of them, like multiple people, I believe in the same PowerPoint
KAYLA: Yes, I think so
SARAH: They input everyone who they hooked up with and they gave them a rating, which like is very... I find it kind of silly.
KAYLA: I mean, especially when you're in college, like, it's...
SARAH: Yeah. And most of the people were like random hookups.
KAYLA: Yeah
SARAH: Like, it wasn’t like… it gets a little sticky when it's like people that everyone knows and being like, I rate them…
KAYLA: Yeah, they were terrible. Yeah, that's a little...
SARAH: Yeah, that’s a little, a little, mm, mm. But like there was just so much gamifying of sex.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: How do we feel about this? I think for the most part, it's like not super-harmful.
KAYLA: Yeah. I mean, I think… again, I can't relate. I think when done in ways like that, it doesn't seem harmful to me, especially again, if everyone is kind of like willingly knows what's going on.
SARAH: Right, if everyone knows it's happening. Like, it became like a game to try and have sex in a certain person's room because they had always kept the door locked when they weren't home.
KAYLA: Yeah. And like everyone in the house knew that that was going on.
SARAH: Right.
KAYLA: So, if it had been...
SARAH: If someone had been really actually uncomfortable with it, I think that that person's... It would have been off limits. But...
KAYLA: Yeah. And they also just wouldn't have lived there.
SARAH: Yeah, I think they just wouldn't have lived there to begin with.
KAYLA: People that selected to live there know what they were getting into.
SARAH: Yeah, like, I think pretty much anyone, by the time you get to the point of wanting to live there, you already know about Pencil Quest, so
KAYLA: Yeah. I think you know the vibes that you're stepping into. So, I think when it's like innocent stuff like that, it's one thing, it's when it gets closer to like what you're talking about, like sexual tourism, that it's not. Like, I was looking up... I was trying to find what a name for this is, and I was looking stuff up. And I found... Okay, I found a Reddit post from eight years ago in r/AskMen.
SARAH: You know what? Eight years ago, we were in college.
KAYLA: Yeah. Yes, we were.
SARAH: Continue.
KAYLA: And it just said, what types of people are on your sexual bucket list?
SARAH: Hmm
KAYLA: And the first person is funny, “well, people is on my sexual bucket list.” Okay.
SARAH: Yeah.
KAYLA: And then there are some ones of like, oh, I'm curious about someone with like bright colored hair, like lots of tattoos and piercings. Like, okay.
SARAH: Yeah. Just like what kind of vibe they have going, yeah, okay.
KAYLA: Yeah. And then there's just like listing races of people.
SARAH: Hmm, okay, yeah
KAYLA: You know... Oh, this person said OP's mom, and the Mod's mom as well.
SARAH: Oh, okay.
KAYLA: Yeah, this person is just listing countries, just kind of listing a country. Or like a deeply specific, like a person with this race, this hair, long legs, blah, blah, blah.
SARAH: Okay. Because when... Okay. When people are just listing countries, that makes me think of… you know Zara Larsson? First of all, I found out that she's younger than us.
KAYLA: Yeah, it's tough out here.
SARAH: She had a career in like 2014. How is she younger than us?
KAYLA: She has been around, I don't know, man.
SARAH: She's not... She was born in ‘97, but December. Scary, terrifying.
KAYLA: Okay, so not... Okay.
SARAH: But like, I thought she was at least like a couple of years older than us.
KAYLA: Oh, no.
SARAH: Anyway, her boyfriend is a black man. They've been together for a long time. In one of her songs, she references like getting herself a Swedish man. And someone was like, oh, so you're... Because she's Swedish, like from Sweden.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: And people were like, oh, so like you say this shit, and then you're with a black man? And she goes, yes, he is a Swedish man.
KAYLA: Yeah, and he’s also Swedish. Like, hello!
SARAH: He is Swedish. He was born and raised in Sweden.
KAYLA: Yeah
SARAH: And so, then it's like, my question is like, okay, if you're listing countries, it's like...
KAYLA: Yeah, does it just... What's on the passport? Is it... Yeah.
SARAH: Like if you have dual citizenship, does that like tick off too?
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: So yeah. Yeah, it seems... I think it's very easy for that to become a fetishization thing.
KAYLA: Yes.
SARAH: That reminds me a little bit, slightly, veering slightly off topic here. I saw a TikTok today from... It was a lesbian woman talking about biphobia in the lesbian community. And she was talking about some sort of... I don't know if she had asked or like she saw another post where people… like, asked lesbians like, what's your deal with bi women?
KAYLA: What's the problem?
SARAH: What's the problem? And some of them were like, oh, like a bi woman broke my heart, like… whatever.
KAYLA: Okay.
SARAH: A lot of them said, well, they all end up with men anyway.
KAYLA: Brother!
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SARAH: And this person in the video was... She did a very good job of like balancing the concerns where she was like, okay, so I understand that if... And a lot of them are saying like, oh, it's just a preference. It's a preference. It's a preference.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: To only date lesbians and not bi women.
KAYLA: Oh
SARAH: And some being like, oh, well, I want them to be a part of the lesbian community. And so, OP was like, okay, then introduce them to the community. Like, isn't that a cool thing of dating? It is like getting to bring someone into your world? Anyway.
KAYLA: Yeah
SARAH: But OP was basically like, there's a very thin line where... Basically… I'm doing a bad job of explaining this.
KAYLA: Are you saying like where preference means...
SARAH: Where preference becomes a stereotype.
KAYLA: Or like a... what's the word?
SARAH: Or when you start impressing your expectations onto them without having even met them.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: And so, OP was basically saying, first of all, okay, you had your heart broken by a bi woman, that was one fucking person.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: That's like saying, I had my heart broken by someone with brown eyes, I'm never dating with someone with brown eyes ever again.
KAYLA: Yeah
SARAH: Like, what are you talking about?
KAYLA: Also, like, I'm sure you've gotten your heart broken by lesbians.
SARAH: Yeah.
KAYLA: But that's okay? What do you mean!?
SARAH: Or like, they cheated on me. And it's like, okay, people of all sexualities cheat on people.
KAYLA: Unfortunately, it seems like everyone is cheating, I don't know.
SARAH: Yeah. But OP was basically saying… all of these lesbians were saying, well, they end up with men anyway. And she was like, well, why are they ending up with men if men are willing to date them but lesbians aren't?
KAYLA: Yeah, vastly reduces the pool, yeah.
SARAH: There's no fucking wonder so many of them end up with men. Like, it's not a them-problem, it's an us-problem.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: And I thought that was a very interesting conversation. And it's related to what we were saying somehow.
KAYLA: Yeah. I'm trying to put that together, like…
SARAH: What were we talking about?
KAYLA: Like fetishization?
SARAH: Like the impressing stereotypes on groups. And just basically being like, oh, I want to fuck this type of person because I think this type of person always has a big dick.
KAYLA: Yes.
SARAH: Like that sort of thing.
KAYLA: No, I see that
SARAH: There's a connection, okay?
KAYLA: Yes. No, I see it. I'm with you. Yeah, I mean, I think there's a very, very slippery slope between... Like, I've heard people doing like alphabets. Like, I want to sleep with someone that has a name for every letter of the alphabet or like zodiac signs or whatever.
SARAH: I feel like that's kind of harmless.
KAYLA: I think it ranges from things like that of like, this foreigner is in my country. Like, how fun. Or like I'm on a vacation in this place, it would be fun to have a hookup.
SARAH: Wouldn't it be so fun and silly if I just like fucked someone while I was on this vacation?
KAYLA: Right. Sure. Again, I can't really. But I logically understand that. But I think it's a slippery slope to then you're just fully using people for your weird fantasies about whoever they are.
SARAH: Yeah. And I think it's no surprise that a lot of like the actual sex tourism is in Asia.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: Because Asian women are very often fetishized in a very yucky and gross way.
KAYLA: Yeah. Yucky.
SARAH: Ooh, yuck! To be clear, the yuck is about the men fetishizing them…
KAYLA: Not the Asian women.
SARAH: Not the Asian women
KAYLA: I'm sure they're lovely.
SARAH: They're lovely people. Maybe some of them suck, but you know, as a whole.
KAYLA: I’m sure there's a range.
SARAH: There's a range.
KAYLA: As there is, you know.
SARAH: Yeah, I just… So where do you think the line is? Like, at what point does it go from that's kind of silly and fun to I feel uncomfortable with that?
KAYLA: I mean, I think definitely silly and fun if everyone is kind of on the same page about where we're at. Or…
SARAH: Or if the other person doesn't know, if it's something dumb like, I want to hook up with someone of every astrological sign.
KAYLA: Right
SARAH: Like, there's no stakes…
KAYLA: Yeah, I think there's not a lot of weight. I mean, I guess there's some stereotypes with astrological signs, but it feels a little less weighty and problematic.
SARAH: If it can't be proven in court… I don't even know what that means.
KAYLA: I don't either, but sure. I think when it starts getting down to more weighty things that are used to discriminate against people in other contexts or that come with very hefty stereotypes, that is when we're verging into…
SARAH: Even if it's a ‘positive’ stereotype
KAYLA: Yeah
SARAH: Because like the stereotype that X, Y, Z group of people have big dicks or whatever. Like, many people view that as like a positive stereotype
KAYLA: Yeah
SARAH: But that's still a stereotype and it's still harmful because what if they have a small dick and then they feel really bad about themselves?
KAYLA: That's a great question. Yeah, I don't know, I mean, I think it's hard to place an exact line on it.
SARAH: Yeah. You need like a spectrum of them and then you would have to be like, this one.
KAYLA: This one. Yeah, I don't know, I just found it very interesting the way like everyone was talking about it as just like, this is happening. Like, the Scots are coming, they're going to clean up. The girls are going out, they're picking up someone every night. Like, the people are… already before they've even really gotten here, they're saying they're going to try to hook up with you, like they're not all that, whatever. You know?
SARAH: Yeah
KAYLA: Like, it was immediately this big conversation about like, this is going to happen, which is just an interesting phenomenon to me.
SARAH: I think also in that particular instance, it's definitely an accent thing being like, oh, the accent is hot, therefore every Scotsman I meet is going to be… I'm going to view him as even hotter because of the accent, you know?
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: Which maybe was part of the reason why some of the Scotswomen were like, don't fall for it. But it's like, the American girls, they're going to be like, you've got the accent, whereas the Scotswomen would be like, that fucking thing?
KAYLA: Yeah. It's not all that, yeah.
SARAH: But especially Americans, I think they find any accent from the British Isles...
KAYLA: Yeah, very charming.
SARAH: Any romance language accent, they're going to be like, oh my god, that's so sexy.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: Australia as well.
KAYLA: I think also some of it kind of became a trend, too, of like… like, even me, not the sex part, but even me, I'm like, oh, I'm kind of sad I missed out on a lot of this stuff because people are talking about… like, I had friends from other cities being like, oh my god, have you seen the Scots everywhere? What's going on in Boston?
SARAH: Well, it's just like, you get to interact with another culture and just get to know them and have fun and be silly.
KAYLA: Yeah, it's just fun. So, I think there's a level of like, oh, were you there the summer that the Scots came and did you hook up with them? It's like a once in a lifetime type of situation.
SARAH: Yeah
KAYLA: So, I think there's also part of that is just, I don't know, it's weird to think about having sex with people as part of a trend because to me, that's something that like having sex holds more weight than that.
SARAH: Having sex with people just because of FOMO.
KAYLA: But it really shows you, I think, the flippancy with which people have sex and that's fine, but I think it really just shows you how differently people think about sex and how… like, I think it just proves an aspec point of like, sex is just an activity. Like, sex is something fun to do with, you know, blah, blah, blah. Like, there are so many reasons to have sex. Like, I feel like a situation like this kind of proves that.
SARAH: Yeah. My brain keeps going in bad places. I was like, you know, like, fuck… fucking like Bonnie Blue and her whole thing about like being… like, setting the world record for being fucked by the most men in 24 hours. Like, she's not doing that because she's like, really wants to fuck all these men, she's doing that because she wants to have the record.
KAYLA: Yeah. I mean, that whole thing just frightened me, on a physical level, but.
SARAH: The whole thing is very scary, yeah. But like, there are so many fucking reasons people have sex.
KAYLA: Yeah. I mean, I… yeah, it's all very interesting because then it's… I guess, I mean, living in a city that's more liberal, maybe that's like one thing, but there's such purity culture around sex still, I think Americans in general are so like reserved and repressed about that.
SARAH: Yeah.
KAYLA: But then you have phenomenon like this, that it's like, oh, it's just like out and about everyone's talking about it.
SARAH: Yeah, I think that's interesting. I think also just comparing that it being Pride month also.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: And, you know, there's always discourse about sexualization of Pride and blah, blah, whatever. But those…
KAYLA: But then you have a woman walking around with a sign basically saying, fuck me. Like, I want Scott to fuck me is basically what her sign was saying. And that's like funny and fine.
SARAH: Yeah. If that was the queers in the general public, people would be so full of shit.
KAYLA: Not okay, yeah
SARAH: But when you have it in queer spaces, like in WeHo, they'd be doing shit in WeHo, I don't know.
KAYLA: Who knows what they're doing over there!?
SARAH: I'll ask Dalton King when I see him.
KAYLA: Yeah. What are they up to over at WeHo?
SARAH: But there's only certain spaces where that can be sort of safely done in, like, specifically queer spaces. Whereas, of course, straight people can kind of do it wherever.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: I don't know, it is really weird because the United States, like there is such a purity culture and there is such a… but then there's also such a flagrant…
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KAYLA: I know.
SARAH: It's so strange.
KAYLA: I know. Because I feel like I hear like British people, especially, talk about like how like prudish the US is in talking about sex.
SARAH: Especially if you talk about like, if you just look at what's allowed on TV.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: What you can see, what you can say.
KAYLA: At the same time, though, I feel like so much here is so over-sexualized
SARAH: Mm-hmm
KAYLA: That it's this weird dichotomy of like, as a culture, we're very repressed and afraid. But also like because of that, it's like how like the strictest parents raise like the sneakiest kids. It's like, because we're so strict, there's like an over… like overdoing it with some stuff, I don't know.
SARAH: It's like, you can be as sexual as you want, as long as you're using innuendo and you don't see a nipple.
KAYLA: Yeah, basically.
SARAH: That's like basically what it is.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: So. But then in other places, like, especially in Europe, it's like nips out. And the Americans are like, what the fuck!?
KAYLA: Yeah. You watch…
SARAH: What the fuck is that!? Is that an areola in my line of sight!?
KAYLA: What's the British Christmas romance one? It's not Love Actually, is it? Maybe it is Love Actually. There's so much nudity in that movie that would not happen here, I feel, just casually.
SARAH: Yeah
KAYLA: I mean, I'm sure it's rated R, but still, it feels very British.
SARAH: A lot of like German TV shows, you'll always see a dick, there will just be a dick.
KAYLA: Good.
SARAH: And it's not even necessarily in a sexual way, there's just a dick.
KAYLA: It's just there.
SARAH: And I'm like, I didn't want to see that dick. Why did you have to show it to me?
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: One of my favorite things about Heated Rivalry is that I don't see a dick.
KAYLA: You really don't.
SARAH: I don't want to see a dick. This is Sarah from the future, sorry for the horrible audio quality. The one thing I would like to add is that if you see any genitalia in US media, it's automatically assumed to be sexual. Like there's a sexualization of anything genitalia, which you don't see as much in Europe. So that's why Americans are always like, oh my God, what are you guys doing over there? Because we view anything in that realm as somehow sexual, even if it's literally just a body part that 50% of the planet has. And that's that.
KAYLA: And that's on that. I think there's also like, I don't know, I'm interested… I guess this is probably from the lens that I'm coming to it from as like an American with American friends who are women going out and pursuing these men. But to me, I think part of the reason it felt very like innocent and okay was because from my view, it was a bunch of women going out and pursuing men.
SARAH: Yeah. It would have felt different if it was a bunch of men going after women.
KAYLA: Which feels less scary.
SARAH: It feels less predatory
KAYLA: Yeah
SARAH: Because they don't have the upper hand already, they don't have the social advantage.
KAYLA: Yeah. I'm sure like even just seeing screenshots of like Scotsman's hinges, it's clear that they were like also pursuing. And I'm like sure that was happening. But just from my view, because I was seeing it from the view of the women, I was like, oh, like, hell yeah, go get them, girl!
SARAH: Feminism.
KAYLA: Hell, yeah, live your sexual life. You know?
SARAH: Yeah.
KAYLA: I think it would have felt quite different if it was like some large female fanbase coming to the city and all the men of the city were like, time to get them.
SARAH: I also think it feels… well… I was going to say like it feels different depending on who the invader is, but I guess the Scots are the invader in this situation.
KAYLA: I mean, but do you think it feels safer as the woman being on your home turf?
SARAH: No, that's fair.
KAYLA: Like you're probably bringing the man back to your apartment. You're in a city full of your friends, your connections. So, if anything like goes wrong…
SARAH: Like you know what to do if something goes wrong.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: You know who to contact
KAYLA: But if it was the opposite situation, you're a woman in a foreign country. I mean, that's a lot more scary to me.
SARAH: Like, do you even know the emergency number off the top of your head?
KAYLA: I probably don't.
SARAH: In the UK, it's 999.
KAYLA: I wouldn't have known that.
SARAH: In Germany, it's 112?
KAYLA: Careful now, don't spread misinformation.
SARAH: I've been there for six months and I don't actually know. Emergency number… Yes, it's 112. Oh, medical situations and fire is 112, police it is 110.
KAYLA: I feel like they should maybe all just have one number. I'm not going to remember the two different numbers in an emergency. Sorry.
SARAH: Oh, if you dial 911 in the UK, your call will automatically redirect to 999, their emergency number.
KAYLA: They know, they know, that's nice. I wish every country would just kind of agree on what we were doing.
SARAH: Yeah. Everyone was kind of deciding it around the same time.
KAYLA: I think there should have just been a meeting and maybe a little poll
SARAH: I can't believe… Remember that podcast where we found out that 911 didn't become like a real thing until the late ‘60s?
KAYLA: I don't remember that. What were they doing before that? Can we relearn? Can you retouch? Let's recreate the moment.
SARAH: 911, US, when invented.
KAYLA: Good.
SARAH: It was… the very first 911 call was placed February 16th, 1968.
KAYLA: But what were we doing…
SARAH: Alabama Speaker of the House Rankin Fite in Haleyville, Alabama. It was answered by US Representative Tom Bevill.
KAYLA: What was a representative doing on the other line? That's not helpful. There's an emergency.
SARAH: The first... Interesting, I know who did it. You know who did it first? The UK did it first. 999 is the original.
KAYLA: Okay, so we fucked up.
SARAH: We fucked up. But hey, if we hadn't done 911, when would 9/11 have been?
KAYLA: No, that's so true. And what would all the TV shows be called?
SARAH: Exactly.
KAYLA: I have to say though, 999 feels better to me because then you're just hitting one button. Like, why did we have to… What was wrong with that for us? Why couldn't we do that?
SARAH: I believe it had something to do... I might be mixing that up with area codes.
KAYLA: Is it like with a rotary phone? It might take so long to go all the way around.
SARAH: It might have been that.
KAYLA: Why not just do 111 then? It's an emergency.
SARAH: But also… it's like how area codes, the numbers in them couldn't be too close together because sometimes they would get like caught, kind of like how with typewriters...
KAYLA: I was not aware of this.
SARAH: Like, typewriters if… the reason we have a QWERTY keyboard is because if letters that are too often used right next to each other are too close to each other...
KAYLA: Oh, it gets jammed.
SARAH: It gets jammed.
KAYLA: I'm learning a lot today.
SARAH: And so, there were obviously other things that went into the QWERTY keyboard, but that was a main reason, it was avoiding jammed keyboards.
KAYLA: The more you know…
SARAH: Yeah, so it was first... Let me just look up emergency telephone numbers. I want everyone's. I want the history of emergency telephone numbers. Okay, the first was the UK. Then in 1937, World War II, before World War II actually.
KAYLA: What were we doing!?
SARAH: 1957, Australia does 999. Well, Sydney does. 1958, New Zealand, 111.
KAYLA: That's what I'm talking about. Thank you!
SARAH: Oh my god, 1957, the United States, the National Association of Fire Chiefs recommends establishing a single number for reporting fires. Not for another 11 years…
KAYLA: Right, perfect.
SARAH: Well, and then 10 years after that, Lyndon B. Johnson formally recommends a universal number for all emergency services. The first 911 call was 1968.
KAYLA: Why did it take so long!?
SARAH: It wasn't designated as the official nationwide emergency number until... Guess what year?
KAYLA:’78
SARAH: ‘99!
KAYLA: What were we doing before then!?
SARAH: That was when they mandated that wireless carriers be able to locate callers via GPS. Basically, even if you don't have... Even if you can't call any other number, you have to be able to call 911.
KAYLA: Yeah. Um… Right.
SARAH: The European Union in ‘91 established 112 as the standard in all of the European Union.
KAYLA: Okay, I can allow for a 112.
SARAH: Prior to ‘92, the Soviet Union used separated numbers for different crises. 01 for fire, 02 for police, 03 for ambulance, 04 for gas.
KAYLA: Nooooo! What if I don't know what I need?
SARAH: Many post-Soviet states currently use an adapted 101, 102, 103, 104. Wait, 104 is for gas? So, like if there's a gas leak?
KAYLA: I think that is so stupid because in an emergency I'm not thinking like that. Give me one number!
SARAH: Yeah. Modern telecommunication systems are transitioning to internet protocol-based networks. This allows for the transmission of text messages, photos, and real-time emergency dispatch centers and that's considered next-gen 911.
KAYLA: See, that's what I want, I want to be able to text the police, this is what I've been waiting for.
SARAH: Countries. List of emergency telephone numbers.
KAYLA: Perfect. Let's print it out. Make a poster.
SARAH: Okay, most of the Americas have 911.
KAYLA: Okay.
SARAH: Most of… almost all of Europe, basically except for the British Isles, use 112. British Isles do 999. A couple of countries in Africa do 999. Africa is all over the map.
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KAYLA: Tough!
SARAH: In Africa, we've got 17.
KAYLA: Oh!
SARAH: We've got 117. We've got 999. We've got 112. We've got 911. We've got 10111.
KAYLA: Huh!
SARAH: We've got 110. Southeast Asia is also kind of all over the place. China, it's 110. Korea, it's 112. Some of Southeast Asia they've got 191.
KAYLA: That's just confusing.
SARAH: I'm seeing a 113.
KAYLA: I just think we should all get on the same page about this.
SARAH: And then Brazil and Australia, Chile, Libya, Morocco, some other countries, New Zealand, have another unique number. So, what is it in Australia now?
KAYLA: What does that mean?
SARAH: I don't know. It just means they're gray on this map. It's 112 or 133. Oh, but that's for police. For ambulance it’s 1… that’s Austria, I’m sorry
KAYLA: What if I need the police and an ambulance?
SARAH: Sorry, I was looking at Austria.
KAYLA: What if I need both?
SARAH: Australia is 000.
KAYLA: Okay, I can get behind that.
SARAH: Yeah, so basically… New Zealand is 111. So basically, if you're in an emergency and you don't know what it is, if you're in Europe, try 112.
KAYLA: Mm-hmm
SARAH: Try 911, it might work. And then just trying…
KAYLA: Just start putting them in.
SARAH: Just like low numbers.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: Just see what happens.
KAYLA: Just to check.
SARAH: Anyway, thank you for joining us.
KAYLA: As we relearn something that we already learned before.
SARAH: You relearned it, I knew it. But I learned it in more detail.
KAYLA: Okay.
SARAH: Oh, what I started saying like three different times was… oh, area codes in the United States, they didn't want the numbers to be too close to each other.
KAYLA: How did we get here?
SARAH: I don't know. But I've been on some Wikipedia rabbitholes before. Kayla, what's our poll for this week?
KAYLA: How do you feel about the gamification of sex? The sexual bucket list.
SARAH: If the U.S. emergency number was 999, when would they have done 9/11?
KAYLA: Probably September 9th at 9 a.m.
SARAH: Maybe. I feel like some people are going to learn from this that 9/11 was on 9/11 because it was 911. I feel like there might be people out there who don't know that who just learned a fun new fact.
KAYLA: Wait, that they don't realize it's called 911 because it was on September 11th? You're saying people don't know that?
SARAH: They did 9/11 on 9/11 because it was 911.
KAYLA: I don't think I knew that. Wait, that's mean.
SARAH: Hold on, let me just make sure that's true.
KAYLA: Damn, they were really thinking about that, huh?
SARAH: Okay, the internet says I'm wrong, that might be an urban myth.
KAYLA: Yeah, that's a lot of like...
SARAH: But that's like… it's like a crazy coincidence.
KAYLA: It is. I just don't know if I can imagine all of them sitting in a room and being like, okay, guys, I got the perfect date for our plan.
SARAH: Nine…
KAYLA: 9/11 because they do 911 over there.
SARAH: Wait, where's Al-Qaeda based?
KAYLA: Oh my god, we can't do this.
SARAH: No, I want to know what the emergency number is in their country, but I don't remember where Al-Qaeda is based. It was founded in Pakistan, but base… Afghanistan. Okay, Afghanistan emergency number, 119 for police and fire. Medical and ambulance it's 102.
KAYLA: Well...
SARAH: Please note that local emergency operators typically do not speak English. If you are a foreign national needing immediate assistance, it is recommended to also contact your country's embassy or consulate representation in the region.
KAYLA: That's really the number you need to know, it is your country's embassy.
SARAH: I saw a tweet today of this woman being like, my husband's… like green card, he's an Afghan, her husband's an Afghan, his green card was rejected. So, she was like, I'm going to move to Afghanistan to be with him.
KAYLA: Wow!
SARAH: And people were like, okay, so you don't want any rights? You want to wear a burqa every day?
KAYLA: Maybe she does.
SARAH: I don't think she does based off of the vibes I got.
KAYLA: Well, I don't know.
SARAH: People were like, is this rage bait? Afghanistan is a lovely place, but not for women right now.
KAYLA: Yeah, it's tough out here.
SARAH: Honestly, I think not for a lot of people right now, but... Okay, Kayla, what's your beef and your juice for this week?
KAYLA: Okay. My beef is not to steal your whole thing, but I've been really itchy the past couple of days.
SARAH: Wow!
KAYLA: I itched so bad that I like gave myself a rash.
SARAH: Okay, well, I have five different allergy medications that you can try out.
KAYLA: Okay, so this is my time, this is my beef time.
SARAH: I'm just saying you can try them out if you need them.
KAYLA: This is my beef time. I've been so itchy and I don't know why. I was afraid it was a bug, but Dean hasn't been itchy. So, I feel like if there was a bug, it would have been him too. You know what I mean?
SARAH: I don't know what to tell you.
KAYLA: So, I don't know, I've just been really itchy. My juice is I've been watching City Council of Darkness, which is a Dimension 20 campaign. I think it's done now, but I'm behind. And I started seeing people complain about it already, like now that it's over, critiquing the whole thing. And I'm like, you guys…
SARAH: Calm down.
KAYLA: Enough. I think it's really fun and nice.
SARAH: Hell yeah.
KAYLA: It's my gym show. I can only watch it when I'm at the gym or going on a walk.
SARAH: Okay.
KAYLA: So, there…
SARAH: Right. My beef is… okay, so on Friday.
KAYLA: Okay, hold on, let me lock in for this.
SARAH: It was 5:07 p.m.
KAYLA: Oh, it was the best of times, it was the worst of times.
SARAH: I was eating a dill pickle.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: And my temporary crown popped out.
KAYLA: Mm-hmm
SARAH: And I said, well, this is great because my dentist is closed, because it's 5:07 p.m. To be fair, they closed at four, because on Fridays they open early and close early. So, it's not like I was seven minutes away, it was like I was an hour and seven minutes away for them to reopen. But, still…
KAYLA: Yeah
SARAH: So, then I was like, okay, I will put it back in. I will see. And then it… okay, and then it popped out five more times.
KAYLA: Mm
SARAH: And so, then I went to the store to get like temporary dental cement.
KAYLA: Right.
SARAH: And I put it in and it stayed. But then this morning at 9 a.m. I had to call my dentist and say, hello, it has come out.
KAYLA: Help!
SARAH: Please let me in! But I also had an allergist appointment at 9 a.m.
KAYLA: Ugh
SARAH: And it was Telehealth. And they were like, it's at 9, but if you don't show, you have to pay $150, but we get a grace period of an hour.
KAYLA: Oh. Right. And why not?
SARAH: But I was like, it's 9 a.m. They probably wouldn't be that late at that time, like, you wouldn't be that behind at 9 a.m. But I was like, okay, let me quickly call my dentist before I get the text with the link from my allergist. And I was like, please, may I come in? And they were like, yes. When do you think you'll be in? And I was like, hopefully 10. If my fucking allergist doesn't make me wait an hour, girl, I don't know.
KAYLA: Who's to say?
SARAH: So, I talked to the allergists. I'm now going to be taking six allergy pills a day and Flonase and allergy shots. And I give my cat allergy food. And I went to the dentist and I got there and I walk in and I hadn't even signed in yet and the receptionist greets me by name.
KAYLA: She goes, hi, Sarah.
SARAH: And I said, that's brutal. I shouldn't be on a first name basis at the dentist.
KAYLA: Noooo! Probably not.
SARAH: So, then I sign in, I kill a cockroach. I thought it was already dead, it wasn’t.
KAYLA: So why were you the one that had to kill it? You don't work there.
SARAH: Well, I thought it was already dead. So, I thought I was just like picking it up and putting it in the garbage… Not with my bare hands.
KAYLA: I was going to say.
SARAH: There were like Kleenex and so I took some Kleenex…
KAYLA: Okay, but again, you don't work there. Why were you the one picking up the bug?
SARAH: Because it was right next to my seat.
KAYLA: I'm sorry, but I'm barely picking up a bug in my own house. Like…
SARAH: I was being polite, but then there wasn't a garbage can, so I was..
KAYLA: There was a cockroach in the basement at work where we keep our storage for weeks that we would walk past every time and no one picked it up.
SARAH: And no one killed it?
KAYLA: Oh, it was dead.
SARAH: Oh, then fucking pick it up.
KAYLA: No!
SARAH: So, then I killed it. It wasn't like a super big one.
KAYLA: Okay
SARAH: But then I killed it, but then there wasn't a garbage out in the open. So, I had to ask receptionist. I was like, do you have a garbage? And so, she like picked it up and she held it up for me and I put it in. She did not know that there was a cockroach in my hand.
KAYLA: Did she see… Okay, okay…
SARAH: I didn't tell her.
KAYLA: I would have told her and then be like, discount, please.
SARAH: I didn't pay anything this time.
KAYLA: Voucher, please. Gift card, please. I’m doing your job!
SARAH: Anyway. So, then I go in and they're like doing the thing and they put it in and it's in two pieces. And I was like, oh, okay, they’re just… Because previously my temporary crown was in one piece for two teeth.
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KAYLA: Okay
SARAH: But then they have two pieces and I was like, oh, I guess maybe they just want it to be in two pieces. And I was like, okay. And then they do an X-ray and I was like, I don't know why you need to do that for a temporary crown, but sure. And then they had me sign a thing and then she was like, here, look at it. So, you can see if you're good with how it looks. And I was like, it's a temporary crown. And then they handed me a paper to sign about cementing it. And I was like, I think these might be the permanent crowns.
KAYLA: Hmm. Hmm.
SARAH: But I'm not supposed to go in for the permanent crowns for another week.
KAYLA: So, they just did you early.
SARAH: So, then the doctor comes over and he is about to start looking at it because the woman has done all of the stuff and done blah, blah, blah. And then there is a dental emergency on the other side.
KAYLA: Oh, no!
SARAH: And he's like, I'm so sorry, I have to go. And he abandons me. And then I'm sitting there for a long time, quite a while. And then finally, someone comes up to me and does say, does clarify that it's the real crowns…
KAYLA: Okay, good. Good to know.
SARAH: And I was like, great, because I didn't want to have to ask because that would be weird.
KAYLA: Yeah, that's tough.
SARAH: Because I already signed the document.
KAYLA: Yeah.
SARAH: So
KAYLA: You can't go back now.
SARAH: And then finally, after like… I had been there at this point for like two hours
KAYLA: Oh my god!
SARAH: To be fair, they had to squeeze me in. It's not like they had an appointment; they just took me.
KAYLA: Yeah, that's fair.
SARAH: And the doctor comes over and he looks at it and he's like, it's 95% good.
KAYLA: Oh!
SARAH: Oh, also he told me he was like, in my culture, we have a saying… because he had literally come over, put his gloves on, was about to do stuff in my mouth when we got pulled over
KAYLA: Yeah
SARAH: And he was like, in my culture, there is a saying, when the hunter has his finger on the trigger, that's when he needs to use the restroom.
KAYLA: What!? Okay…
SARAH: My dentist is such a quirky man.
KAYLA: Okay! Sure! Okay!
SARAH: If we have any Iranian listeners, can you let me know if that's an actual saying?
KAYLA: I hope to God he just made that up, I really hope that's nothing.
SARAH: Anyway. So, then he looks at it and he goes, it is 95% good, but I am a perfectionist. The 5% that it is not good… he was like, you paid too much money to not have 100% good.
KAYLA: That is fair, I respect that.
SARAH: So, then they did not put the permanent crown in. So, then they put the temporary crown back in and I do have to go back in next week.
KAYLA: So, they couldn't have fixed… what was… what couldn't be fixed?
SARAH: I don't know if they were sending it back to the maker for something
KAYLA: Oh
SARAH: Or like, it was something like or like…
KAYLA: I was like, why couldn't he just fix it?
SARAH: It was something that they couldn't do on the spot.
KAYLA: Okay, I see. Well, that's fun.
SARAH: I was so excited. I was like, oh my god, I'll be able to cancel my appointment next week. And then I was like, never mind.
KAYLA: Nope.
SARAH: But it is firmly glued in my mouth now.
KAYLA: So yeah, what's the difference now that is going to make this one not fall out?
SARAH: Uh, they glued it harder, I don't know.
KAYLA: Okay, good. Right.
SARAH: I'm not sure. That's my beef.
KAYLA: Yep.
SARAH: My juice is I'm going to Michigan for the 4th of July.
KAYLA: I'm going to a lake for the 4th of July, but it's like a weird Massachusetts lake that I think is mostly just algae and goose poo.
SARAH: I'm going to a real lake for real bitches.
KAYLA: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
SARAH: Okay. You can tell us about your beef, your juice, your local emergency number, and whether you have to remember multiple, on our social media @soundsfakepod. We also have a Patreon, patreon.com/soundsfakepod if you'd like to support us there. I don't know why you would, especially since we're about to go on break. Maybe wait till after.
KAYLA: Yeah
SARAH: Not that we've gotten new patrons in a really long time
KAYLA: Years.
SARAH: Hey, we got a new $2 patron like three weeks ago.
KAYLA: Huge stuff.
SARAH: Our $5 patrons who we are promoting this week are Jiro the Wolf, Arctic Enby, Cinnamon Toast Punch, Colleen Walsh, and Emily Jean. Our $10 patrons who are promoting something this week are Eric who would like to promote Queer ASL. My aunt Jeannie who would like to promote Christopher's Haven; who I will be seeing this weekend.
KAYLA: Ooh!
SARAH: Johanna who would like to promote being kind to one another. Kayla's Dad who would like to promote JandiCreations.com. And Maff who would like to promote the Don't Should sweatshirt. A wonderful gift for America's 250th anniversary.
KAYLA: Oh my god. I had someone today at work who… it was a government employee, so, maybe they were just feeling really festive but they were like, oh, have a good Fourth, like 250, incredible. And I was like, I don't know, I don't know.
SARAH: The way that like all of Europe and like China is looking at us being like, okay.
KAYLA: I know, I was like, I'm personally not too excited about that for sure.
SARAH: Like, we've been having a democracy for that long but like how much longer?
KAYLA: Right, like, I'm a little busy, personally.
SARAH: No, I just mean like it's cool that we've had the modern democracy for 250 years but like, I don't know that that's going to last much longer.
KAYLA: Yeah, and I meant I'm kind of busy like with that.
SARAH: Oh okay.
KAYLA: Not feeling very celebratory.
SARAH: Yeah.
KAYLA: So.
SARAH: Soooo, our other $10 patrons…
KAYLA: Soooooo!? Hmmm
SARAH: Are Martin Chiesl, Purple Hayes, Quartertone, Barefoot Backpacker, SongOStorm, Sydney Price, Val, Alastor, Ani, Arcnes, Benjamin Ybarra, Clare Olsen, Danielle Hutchinson, Derick & Carissa and Elle Bitter. Our $15 patrons who would like to promote something this week… Nope, they always want to promote something. Our $15 patrons, are Ace who would like to promote the writer Crystal Scherer. ‘Nathaniel White, NathanielJWhiteDesigns.coms.’ You get it.
KAYLA: Hmm. Hmm.
SARAH: Kayla’s aunt Nina who would like to promote katemaggartart.com. And Schnell who would like to promote accepting that everyone is different and that's awesome. Our $20 patrons are Changeling & Alex who would like to promote their company, ControlAltAccess.com. And Dr. Jacki, Dragonfly, my mom, and River who would like to promote NathanielJWhiteDesigns.com, pronounced correctly.
KAYLA: Pronounced good.
SARAH: Thanks for listening, tune in not Sunday, not next Sunday… tune in… Okay, tune in in four weeks.
KAYLA: Four Sundays.
SARAH: August 9th. Let me double check that.
KAYLA: I hope that's wrong.
SARAH: It's right, baby!
KAYLA: Booooo!
SARAH: August 9th, we'll be back in your ears. Until then, listen to all of our backlog and say, what were they doing!?
KAYLA: What were they doing and what are they doing now!?
SARAH: Exactly.
KAYLA: And until then, take good care of your cows.
SARAH: They probably don't like fireworks, protect them.
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